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Reimer and Morin to Sharks for Stalock, Smith and conditional 4th

freer said:
So we got two AHL player for Reimer. I don't know how I feel about this trade
I don't know what people were expecting for Reimer. He's a UFA and would have walked for nothing anyway.
freer said:
Big Daddy said:
First trade that my response has been WTF.  Is this to bolster the Marlies so the young guys can come up?

Something big better be happen or else LOU screwed the pooch on this one
 
I don't like this trade either but I assume they did it for a reason.  Perhaps Reimer had unreasonable contract demands.  It will be good for him to hopefully get the playoffs monkey off his back.  If he plays well for them down the stretch he will probably get paid.

He's such a likable guy though.  Now the Leafs have no goalie at all.  I wonder what their plan is.
 
Nik mentioned this elsewhere, but trading Reimer is also pretty valuable to the tank effort. So pretty mediocre return, but if it means the difference between finishing 2nd last and 5th last I'll take it.
 
Frank E said:
EDIT:  Having said that, I'm wondering if they turned down any offers earlier in the season for him?  This is a garbage return for a serviceable NHL goalie, so market must be super soft right now.

I wonder. If they'd put a price on him at the beginning of the season and were shopping him, would think there'd at least have been a 3rd offered when he was on his run. Surely someone with playoff hopes needed a bit of help in goal during that period?

This seems like they got a sense of his likely contract demands and shipped him out to recoup some assets on an expiring contract. Which is fine.

 
I've given up getting last. The Oilers are just too experienced at this game, and have 4 games in hand, which
to the Oilers is like having half a season in hand.  :-\
 
Reimer never got the proper credit for his play in the lockout shortened season. He basically carried the team into the playoffs (with Randy kicking and screaming). Thanks for being arguably the most likable player on this team the past few years James.
 
I really like Reimer, but he's never played more than 37 games in a season.  So I have a hard time thinking many outside of Leafs fans would consider him a potential #1 goalie.  And goalies are weird, but he'll be turning 28 in March.  Basically he's probably a back-up at this point to most teams while also having injury concerns and being a UFA at season's end.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik mentioned this elsewhere, but trading Reimer is also pretty valuable to the tank effort. So pretty mediocre return, but if it means the difference between finishing 2nd last and 5th last I'll take it.

That's no solace for me.  They could also trade away Nazem Kadri for a bag of pucks to help out too, but that doesn't make it a reasonable return.

This is obviously all he was worth today, but I guess I'm just more thinking they should have traded him for a more reasonable return sometime in the past year.  Certainly the market was not always this poor.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik mentioned this elsewhere, but trading Reimer is also pretty valuable to the tank effort. So pretty mediocre return, but if it means the difference between finishing 2nd last and 5th last I'll take it.
Yeah I was just thinking that as well.  The 4th rounder sucks but it's better than nothing and it helps the tank.  I thought they would at least get a 3rd rounder for him.  I guess the market was soft.
 
Frank E said:
That's no solace for me.  They could also trade away Nazem Kadri for a bag of pucks to help out too, but that doesn't make it a reasonable return.

This is obviously all he was worth today, but I guess I'm just more thinking they should have traded him for a more reasonable return sometime in the past year.  Certainly the market was not always this poor.

Well the different of course is that you're not losing Kadri for nothing anyway in a couple of months.
 
lamajama said:
Bullfrog said:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-reimer-to-sharks-1.444602

So Reimer went 188-85-76 with the Leafs?  Wow.

Yeah, they're so busy trying to break the story that no one picks up on that.  Hell of a tie record there.

85-76 is his record, 2.84 GAA and .914 SV%.
 
Frank E said:
lamajama said:
Bullfrog said:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-reimer-to-sharks-1.444602

So Reimer went 188-85-76 with the Leafs?  Wow.

Yeah, they're so busy trying to break the story that no one picks up on that.  Hell of a tie record there.

85-76 is his record, 2.84 GAA and .914 SV%.

In their defence they probably got those numbers from NHL.com.
 
Leafs recalled Sparks for the  back-up role, Lou says that they want to see how their minor league goalies look so I wouldn't be surprised to see Bibeau get some action too.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Frank E said:
That's no solace for me.  They could also trade away Nazem Kadri for a bag of pucks to help out too, but that doesn't make it a reasonable return.

This is obviously all he was worth today, but I guess I'm just more thinking they should have traded him for a more reasonable return sometime in the past year.  Certainly the market was not always this poor.

Well the different of course is that you're not losing Kadri for nothing anyway in a couple of months.

Sure, but that's the case with most of these deadline acquisitions.  They're on expiring UFA deals.

And really the argument suggested was that getting rid of him helps the tank, so who cares what the return is.
 
Very disappointing to lose a great guy.  Always smiling and upbeat no matter how many times this organization tried to crush his spirit.
I wonder if the terrible return is indicative of his concussion history.

 
Frank E said:
This is obviously all he was worth today, but I guess I'm just more thinking they should have traded him for a more reasonable return sometime in the past year.  Certainly the market was not always this poor.

It would have been a pretty short window between "coming off a very poor year" and "losing him for nothing in a few months" and I'd bet most GMs weren't quite as amazed by a hot early stretch as we might have liked. 
 
sickbeast said:
I guess the market was soft.

Yeah and there's a decent amount of goalies out there too. Heading into the deadline there was Nilsson, Reimer, Hiller, Khudobin, Johnson. Potentially Ward. All of those guys are at roughly the same level, I doubt there's 6 teams looking for goalies. Nilsson already went to one team, Leafs probably wanted to act fast before anyone else went and there weren't any trading partners left.
 
As a goalie, I've never been a huge fan of Reimer, although he made a decent impression on me this year.  As a person, you'll likely not find any better.

Initial reaction is that a mid-round pick two years out is a weak return.  But realistically, a team worth their salt is not really looking to spend much on a pending UFA and a goalie like Reimer simply for insurance, and a team with no chance is not going to give up anything of value when he adds nothing this year and he can be signed for free in the summer.  If the mantra is to get anything for a pending UFA than letting him walk for free, than Lou came out ahead.

And who's to say he doesn't re-sign back in Toronto in the summer.  I wouldn't be overly surprised if the Leafs brought him back as backup/filler starter.
 

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