Reimer and Morin to Sharks for Stalock, Smith and conditional 4th

[Kin]

I do have to say though that while I'm sure the answer to this is generally going to be "well, they know the market and have a general sense of how it changes" I am a little surprised that they're making so many of these small deals before the deadline. I'm sure the idea we have of a panicking GM overpaying with the clock ticking isn't real but, well, past deadline days indicate there might be something there. 

 

[bustaheims]

I'm sure the idea we have of a panicking GM overpaying with the clock ticking isn't real but, well, past deadline days indicate there might be something there.

I think that's partly why PAP hasn't been moved yet. He and Polak are the guys that GMs may have panicked and overspent on. They did really well on Polak already - probably the best the could have, even in a panic situation - and they're waiting a little on PAP.

 

[sickbeast]

Well I will say that Lamoriello is converting more players into draft picks than I have ever seen as a Leafs fan.  He is doing a really good job with the rebuild.  He has gotten some great returns in his trades for players like Phaneuf.  So I am fine with the fact that he didn't get much for Reimer.  He seems to know what he is doing.  Hopefully he can get some more picks for guys like Parenteau.  He's definitely not done dealing this weekend.

 

[Redleaf]

I do have to say though that while I'm sure the answer to this is generally going to be "well, they know the market and have a general sense of how it changes" I am a little surprised that they're making so many of these small deals before the deadline. I'm sure the idea we have of a panicking GM overpaying with the clock ticking isn't real but, well, past deadline days indicate there might be something there.

I thought about that as well, but for all we know Lou could still be planning to make a big splash on Monday. Especially they are thinking of moving the likes of Kadri, Komarov, and Bozak.

 

[L K]

This seems like a pretty crappy return for Reimer.  I mean Edmonton just traded a garbage goaltender for a 5th round pick.  I would hope that Reimer would be worth a little more than Anders Nilsson.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

My dream is the Reimer steals the net and goes on a Cinderella run in the playoffs and wins it all.

You shut up!

I can dream, okay?

 

[Bullfrog]

Dude, I'll be having the same dream alongside you.

 

[jdh1]

We will have something to cheer for in the playoffs,seeing Reimer hopefully playing and that outside chance they get to the finals to get that 3rd rounder.

 

[disco]

Rooting for Reimer. Great guy. May see action. Heard that the return is basically the market and Lou helping Doug Wilson out a bit. Hell, 23 games for a pick ain't bad. If he fits in with their long-term plans they can just resign him in the summer. Like I said, he deserves Bernier's contract (around 4.5). Someone might give it to him.

 

[Boston Leaf]

I trust Lou and Shanny and co.. I'm sure if someone was offering a 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick or a prospect they would have jumped. But there isnt much of a market and most playoff teams are set in goal for their starters.. Don't see the big deal. If they want him back in off season then the option is there

 

[Kin]

I trust Lou and Shanny and co.. I'm sure if someone was offering a 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick or a prospect they would have jumped. But there isnt much of a market and most playoff teams are set in goal for their starters.. Don't see the big deal. If they want him back in off season then the option is there

I don't think it's a big deal or anything but I do think it's fair to say that if people are going to make a big deal about the job the front office is doing when the returns  are slightly better than expected then it is a bit of a copout to say "hey, that's just what the market is" if the return is less than expected

 

[ZBBM]

This seems like a pretty crappy return for Reimer.  I mean Edmonton just traded a garbage goaltender for a 5th round pick.  I would hope that Reimer would be worth a little more than Anders Nilsson.

This.

Roll it anyway you like but let's  call a spade a spade. A lousy deal. This is the Lou of his last few years with NJ. His first fail as Leafs GM.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This.

Roll it anyway you like but let's  call a spade a spade. A lousy deal. This is the Lou of his last few years with NJ. His first fail as Leafs GM.

I'll give you it's an underwhelming return, but what were we really expecting back from Reimer? I think most people had him pegged for a 3rd rounder, middling goalies just don't get that much back in return. And in that article from Steve Simmons where he asked a bunch of scouts and stuff what the Leafs could get in return for players at the deadline, the consensus was actually a 4th round draft pick. So we're basically just back to being upset about a pick not being in the most recent draft year (or even the draft after that), but even Lou mentioned today having to be mindful of the 50-contract limit.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

This.

Roll it anyway you like but let's  call a spade a spade. A lousy deal. This is the Lou of his last few years with NJ. His first fail as Leafs GM.

I'll give you it's an underwhelming return, but what were we really expecting back from Reimer? I think most people had him pegged for a 3rd rounder, middling goalies just don't get that much back in return. And in that article Steve Simmons where he asked a bunch of scouts and stuff what the Leafs could get in return for players at the deadline, the consensus was actually a 4th round draft pick. So we're basically just back to being upset about a pick not being in the most recent draft year (or even the draft after that), but even Lou mentioned today having to be mindful of the 50-contract limit.

Exactly, calling this a fail is hilarious, underwhelming I'll give you, but let's not get crazy.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'm not overly upset at the return because the market for UFA goalies just simply isn't there this year. It's still sad to see Reimer go as he was a solid person as well as being the last Leafs goalie to sniff the playoffs.
Having said that I'm excited to see what Sparks can do with his next opportunity.

 

[Joe S.]

I don't understand some of the reactions in this thread. Reimer is a mediocre goalie heading into ufa... To be honest I'm surprised they got anything for him.

 

[ZBBM]

This.

Roll it anyway you like but let's  call a spade a spade. A lousy deal. This is the Lou of his last few years with NJ. His first fail as Leafs GM.

I'll give you it's an underwhelming return, but what were we really expecting back from Reimer? I think most people had him pegged for a 3rd rounder, middling goalies just don't get that much back in return. And in that article Steve Simmons where he asked a bunch of scouts and stuff what the Leafs could get in return for players at the deadline, the consensus was actually a 4th round draft pick. So we're basically just back to being upset about a pick not being in the most recent draft year (or even the draft after that), but even Lou mentioned today having to be mindful of the 50-contract limit.

Exactly, calling this a fail is hilarious, underwhelming I'll give you, but let's not get crazy.

Keep laughing. It's a fail.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

This seems like a pretty crappy return for Reimer.  I mean Edmonton just traded a garbage goaltender for a 5th round pick.  I would hope that Reimer would be worth a little more than Anders Nilsson.

At the same time is a GM supposed to make a deal based on the terms of another deal they consider bad?  If one GM wants to give up something for a bad player doesn't necessarily mean teams are obligated to use that as a benchmark.

And really, if it's stuff we talk about on here you can be sure it was discussed by the management of both teams.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

This.

Roll it anyway you like but let's  call a spade a spade. A lousy deal. This is the Lou of his last few years with NJ. His first fail as Leafs GM.

I'll give you it's an underwhelming return, but what were we really expecting back from Reimer? I think most people had him pegged for a 3rd rounder, middling goalies just don't get that much back in return. And in that article Steve Simmons where he asked a bunch of scouts and stuff what the Leafs could get in return for players at the deadline, the consensus was actually a 4th round draft pick. So we're basically just back to being upset about a pick not being in the most recent draft year (or even the draft after that), but even Lou mentioned today having to be mindful of the 50-contract limit.

Exactly, calling this a fail is hilarious, underwhelming I'll give you, but let's not get crazy.

Keep laughing. It's a fail.

I will. No it's not.

 

[AvroArrow]

Keep laughing. It's a fail.

The only way this can be a fail is if there was a better deal on the table, and I doubt there was.