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Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
Peter D. said:Saw this elsewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYfnuVlSL9I&feature=player_embedded#
I didn't listen to it as I'm at work, but it's in Russian. The reactions are telling. Kozlov looks absolutely devastated.
13 said:cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
According to CTVnewsnet it was a mid-70's Russian built plane.
cw said:13 said:cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
According to CTVnewsnet it was a mid-70's Russian built plane.
http://twitter.com/#!/michalpetrak/status/111450959577759744
@michalpetrak
Michal Petr?k
This specific plane was built in 1993. 70's mentioned in one of my previous tweets is the decade of type construction.
43 minutes ago
He's a sports writer. I don't know if he's right.
cw said:13 said:cw said:Floyd said:Bender said:Floyd said:drummond said:Players like Jagr repeatedly voiced concerns about quality of Russian aircrafts.
I've worked on a several of them in my time and even to my untrained eye (I'm not a mechanic) most of them had a least one thing that caught my eye as spotty... but like I said, my preliminary feeling is weight & balance.
Your suspicions may prove correct:
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
Russian aviation officials are saying the plane may have been over the allowed take-off weight. It crashed 7-8 sec after hitting radar
The internet is rammed with video stuffed Russian planes going off the runway for this very reason. Unfortunately, many airlines (not just Russian) with less stringent safety regulations (both internal and external) put maximizing revenue further ahead on the priority scale then perhaps it should be. I suspect this bird wasn't just carrying athletes and their equipment. I suspect there was other cargo on board and it's weight was misrepresented.
Edit: Though again, I'm only speculating.
Saw a tweet saying the plane was made in 1993 ... fyi ...
According to CTVnewsnet it was a mid-70's Russian built plane.
http://twitter.com/#!/michalpetrak/status/111450959577759744
@michalpetrak
Michal Petr?k
This specific plane was built in 1993. 70's mentioned in one of my previous tweets is the decade of type construction.
43 minutes ago
He's a sports writer. I don't know if he's right.
Peter D. said:Saw this elsewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYfnuVlSL9I&feature=player_embedded#
I didn't listen to it as I'm at work, but it's in Russian. The reactions are telling. Kozlov looks absolutely devastated.
Busta Reims said:Peter D. said:Saw this elsewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYfnuVlSL9I&feature=player_embedded#
I didn't listen to it as I'm at work, but it's in Russian. The reactions are telling. Kozlov looks absolutely devastated.
That video is almost surreal.
leafsweetie said:Peter D. said:Saw this elsewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYfnuVlSL9I&feature=player_embedded#
I didn't listen to it as I'm at work, but it's in Russian. The reactions are telling. Kozlov looks absolutely devastated.
According to Twitter, that's the President of the KHL (Medvedev) making the announcement after the first period of a season opener.
Floyd said:I can't help but think that for a few seconds, they all knew they were done for... It gives me shivers.
Peter D. said:I'm curious -- how did the one passenger end up surviving?
Note: I read elsewhere that the second reported survivor had burns to 80% of his body and later died in hospital. Don't know if that's been confirmed or not.