The Lupul Situation
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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herman said:
Nik and I talked about that privately, I've reason to believe this is almost certainly the case.
We tend to keep the sordid off the boards though.
bustaheims
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herman said:
I hadn't thought of that, but, all things considered, that could be a very real possibility.
herman
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bustaheims said:
It was my running theory last year.
Just going by the white space surrounding the whole situation, the remarkable level of silence, and the timing of various events/signings, it fits. The solution that Lupul clearly signed off on last September, assuming it is within the bounds of the CBA, is probably the cleanest, quietest, and face-savingest route for everyone involved (including the league).
bustaheims
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herman said:
Definitely connects the most dots. Most compelling theory so far.
Like WIGWAL said, this is all speculation that we probably shouldn't be discussing here.
For the record though, I don't buy it.
For the record though, I don't buy it.
https://twitter.com/simmonssteve/status/909959409165570048
Not like Simmons is always the most reliable source, but just throwing this out there. I really don't think Lupul's comment was meant to blow up like it did. I think he's content with how the situation is playing out. Maybe he's a little bitter about it, but he's accepted it.
Kypreos brought up a decent point when talking about it, if Lupul was planning on trying to pass his physical and play hockey this season, we'd have heard about him skating 4 or 5 times a week during the summer to get back into game shape. That didn't seem to happen.
Not like Simmons is always the most reliable source, but just throwing this out there. I really don't think Lupul's comment was meant to blow up like it did. I think he's content with how the situation is playing out. Maybe he's a little bitter about it, but he's accepted it.
Kypreos brought up a decent point when talking about it, if Lupul was planning on trying to pass his physical and play hockey this season, we'd have heard about him skating 4 or 5 times a week during the summer to get back into game shape. That didn't seem to happen.
Kin
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herman said:
So, wanting to move things away from the rumour-mongering(although I'm happy to say privately what I said privately to WIGWAL to anyone) then even if true it doesn't fundamentally alter the basic truth here. Lupul didn't fail a physical, saying he did is untrue. However benign a lie it might be, it's still a lie.
I get people are getting hung up on Lupul saying that the Leafs "cheat" but replace that with lie and it's still just confirming a pretty basic thing we all knew.
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
That's not necessarily true. Depending on the extent of the type of issue we're speculating about here, a player could absolutely fail a physical because of it.
Bullfrog
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Nik the Trik said:
I understand the importance of being careful in what we say publicly, so I'm not advocating you saying anything you feel you shouldn't. But, I'm sure you can see the problem when you repeatedly state "he didn't fail his physical" is a fact when the official report says he has. Based on the publicly available evidence, he did, in fact, fail his "physical." I think part of the problem is calling it a physical. That's not necessarily inaccurate, but in the CBA it's stated as "injured, ill or disabled and is unable to perform his duties as a hockey player." I'm sure there's some leeway in claiming the latter part.
I believe there's a fact that the Leafs have declared him unable to perform, but he's perhaps not fighting it in order to prevent certain personal details from emerging (whether it's physical injury or otherwise.) In this case, it's a form of passive intimidation. That's morally low, but if he's not going to fight it, there's not much else he can really complain about.
Kin
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Bullfrog said:
Frogman, that strikes me as wallowing in semantics for no real reason. Luckily, that's my bread and butter so your point is taken. Rather than say "he didn't fail his physical" I will instead say "He is not physically unable to play and statements to the contrary are bogus".
Bullfrog said:
To re-iterate, I don't think his comments were in any way a "complaint" about the Leafs decision or the current situation. I think it was a complaint about mouth-breathing fans showing up on his instagram and saying things to the effect of "How come you can do that when you're too injured to play?!?!?!"