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2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

AvroArrow said:
Dappleganger said:
Hyman is scoring 0.44 goals/game. Nylander and Tavares are at 0.45/game.

How 'bout, no?

You think he's gonna keep that up? Highly unlikely.

At that pace? Probably not, but he does something no one else on the team does with his work along the boards and in front of the net. He's highly valuable.
 
Dappleganger said:
AvroArrow said:
Dappleganger said:
Hyman is scoring 0.44 goals/game. Nylander and Tavares are at 0.45/game.

How 'bout, no?

You think he's gonna keep that up? Highly unlikely.

At that pace? Probably not, but he does something no one else on the team does with his work along the boards and in front of the net. He's highly valuable.

Oh, I agree his game is valuable, but I think it's easier to acquire someone like him than a top 4 D.  In the end, I'm still undecided if I would sell high on him.
 
According to TSN?s Dreger, (I know I know but..j, Muzzin is to receive a 4-year extension in the vicinity of $5.5M.

Via MLHS:
Darren Dreger reported on Tuesday that the Jake Muzzin contract is all but done at around four years, ~$5.5 million AAV.

I believe there is an agreement in place with Jake Muzzin to extend with the Toronto Maple Leafs ? five years at just over $5.5 million. I believe it is a heavily front-loaded contract extension for Jake Muzzin. It will have a variety of forms of trade protection. Because of the tagging issues and the salary cap implications the Toronto Maple Leafs continue to wrestle with, I don?t believe the Maple Leafs are going to announce anything until perhaps later this month or early in March.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN?s Dreger, (I know I know but..j, Muzzin is to receive a 4-year extension in the vicinity of $5.5M.

Via MLHS:
Darren Dreger reported on Tuesday that the Jake Muzzin contract is all but done at around four years, ~$5.5 million AAV.

I believe there is an agreement in place with Jake Muzzin to extend with the Toronto Maple Leafs ? five years at just over $5.5 million. I believe it is a heavily front-loaded contract extension for Jake Muzzin. It will have a variety of forms of trade protection. Because of the tagging issues and the salary cap implications the Toronto Maple Leafs continue to wrestle with, I don?t believe the Maple Leafs are going to announce anything until perhaps later this month or early in March.
That's a fair deal. I think they wait until March because a team is only allowed so much salary to go out  in the event of a work stoppage.
 
Sometimes you need to take a step back to take a step forward. Matthews, Marner etc have been pretty successful* since they came into the league. You need to taste pain and adversity to maybe just drive up that desire to win to the next level.

So maybe missing out this year is what's needed. Didn't Tampa miss out a few years back when they had a LOT of injuries in similar fashion to the Leafs this year and since then they've been a very consistent side (barring last year's shock I guess)

And for that reason I would aim to stand pat at the trade deadline. I definitely wouldn't use up assets to bring anyone in. Wait til the summer and reconfigure then.

If someone offers a mind blowing over payment for the likes of a Kapanen I would probably take it though without really going out to shop them. I'd see what I could get for expiring contracts like Barrie rather than lose him for nothing a la JVR/Bozak.



*Relative to the lack of success the Leafs had had in the previous decade in making the playoffs and having very good regular season records etc
 
Arn said:
Sometimes you need to take a step back to take a step forward. Matthews, Marner etc have been pretty successful* since they came into the league. You need to taste pain and adversity to maybe just drive up that desire to win to the next level.

So maybe missing out this year is what's needed. Didn't Tampa miss out a few years back when they had a LOT of injuries in similar fashion to the Leafs this year and since then they've been a very consistent side (barring last year's shock I guess)

And for that reason I would aim to stand pat at the trade deadline. I definitely wouldn't use up assets to bring anyone in. Wait til the summer and reconfigure then.

If someone offers a mind blowing over payment for the likes of a Kapanen I would probably take it though without really going out to shop them. I'd see what I could get for expiring contracts like Barrie rather than lose him for nothing a la JVR/Bozak.



*Relative to the lack of success the Leafs had had in the previous decade in making the playoffs and having very good regular season records etc

The Lightning also only had 1 player over 6 million dollars in 2016-2017 and 2 players in 2017-2018. 
 
Guilt Trip said:
Funny thing.. Leafs are 6 points behind St. Louis who lead the west..

The West is much more balanced than the East this season. Head-to-head, the West has generally been stronger - only 4 Western teams have Pt% at or below .500 vs the East; where as 7 Eastern teams are .500 or worse vs the West.
 
Just something to remember: from November 20th to February 3rd the Leafs had the 3rd best record in the entire NHL. That's over a 1/3 of the season and was literally just over 2 weeks ago. Even if you include this past 2 week stretch where they've struggled they still have the 6th best record in the league since Keefe was hired.

They played like dogshit last night. No other way around that. If that game occurred 38 games into the season it'd be easier to just shake off because of how the previous 37 went. But because of what happened before November 20th the Leafs don't have any rope left to hang themselves and I obviously get why people are reacting to last night like they are.

Still, all they need to do to make it to the playoffs is be better than the friggin' Florida Panthers. And if they get back to that Nov.20-Feb.3rd type of play they'll be a very dangerous team to face in the playoffs.

Considering Freddie's stats (worst save percentage among any goalie with 10+ games in 2020), I don't know how you couldn't go with a "win and you're in" mentality with the goalies going forward. And it's Campbell's turn now.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Just something to remember: from November 20th to February 3rd the Leafs had the 3rd best record in the entire NHL. That's over a 1/3 of the season and was literally just over 2 weeks ago. Even if you include this past 2 week stretch where they've struggled they still have the 6th best record in the league since Keefe was hired.

They played like dogshit last night. No other way around that. If that game occurred 38 games into the season it'd be easier to just shake off because of how the previous 37 went. But because of what happened before November 20th the Leafs don't have any rope left to hang themselves and I obviously get why people are reacting to last night like they are.

Still, all they need to do to make it to the playoffs is be better than the friggin' Florida Panthers. And if they get back to that Nov.20-Feb.3rd type of play they'll be a very dangerous team to face in the playoffs.

Considering Freddie's stats (worst save percentage among any goalie with 10+ games in 2020), I don't know how you couldn't go with a "win and you're in" mentality with the goalies going forward. And it's Campbell's turn now.

How many regulation wins do they have in 2020?  How can a team ranked near the top in goals against be one of the best?  Until these clowns learn to play structured, defensive hockey with some emotion they will continue to suck
 
KadriFan said:
How many regulation wins do they have in 2020?

I've fully admitted that they've struggled the last 2 weeks. Prior to that they had 5 regulation wins in 11 games. That was 10th in the league. Boston had 1 more in 1 more game. Pittsburgh had 4 regulation wins in 13 games during that same period.

KadriFan said:
How can a team ranked near the top in goals against be one of the best?

Last time I checked a 4-3 win gives as many points as a 1-0 win.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Yup. Win is a win.
A win is a win. But...the team has been struggling to get those wins against weaker competition. Now they face a bunch of playoff teams which will give a better idea where this team stands. Based on last night, it doesn't look good. They got shredded on the PK and weren't able to generate much offense despite all the fancy skating and passing. That won't work against better teams.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1230192839390351364

"Gauthier is just a placeholder for Malgin" - he whispered quietly to himself over and over again
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1230192839390351364

"Gauthier is just a placeholder for Malgin" - he whispered quietly to himself over and over again
Marincin Barrie is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
I know all teams go through injuries, but I think it has had an impact on the Leafs season. Like CTB said, most of the Leafs poor play was Pre-Keefe, so if they out perform Florida, we'll be there. The Habs are pretty much out now, the way they are playing.

I think we are really missing Reilly, it's a significant injury for this team to get over, especially with all the other key injuries at other times, to important players. It's not an excuse, but I do see it as a factor. The reason we can't trade our way out of this spot, is being so close to the cap.

I also kind of agree with the notion, maybe this team needs to lose out. I didn't disagree with Ovechkin's comments about our team, that they need to play for each other and I see that they still think they can score their way out of everything. Not this late in the season, you can't...
 

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