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Armchair GM 2019-2020

Highlander said:
cabber24 said:
Stressing about the offseason roster.

Worries:
How our D is shaping up
Losing Kappi/Johnsson
Having to trade a Nylander to make it all fit
No $ for July 1

Positives
D is going to be fine, we have a lot of meat and potatoes on the farm. Just going to be young and very fast.
Won't lose either Kapi or Mango.
Not trading Nylander, however Brown and Kadri, Zaitzev may go and Gardiner is going.  Bridge deals for both Kapi and Mango (sounds like a new detective show).
A team without Cap problems not doing their job or competitive right now.

Somehow I hope that Dubas can fix the Marleau Conundrum (a hockey relativity problem that Einstein probably couldn't solve).
All of your suggestions are obviously easier said than done.

D won't be fine, 2 rookies into the lineup won't be pretty.
No one wants Zaitzev or Brown at their cap hits.
Mango and Kappi probably don't want bridge deals.
Marleau will be on the cap.
Oh yeah, that Marner contract too.

I wish I could fast forward to October to see how this plays out.
 
cabber24 said:
Highlander said:
cabber24 said:
Stressing about the offseason roster.

Worries:
How our D is shaping up
Losing Kappi/Johnsson
Having to trade a Nylander to make it all fit
No $ for July 1

Positives
D is going to be fine, we have a lot of meat and potatoes on the farm. Just going to be young and very fast.
Won't lose either Kapi or Mango.
Not trading Nylander, however Brown and Kadri, Zaitzev may go and Gardiner is going.  Bridge deals for both Kapi and Mango (sounds like a new detective show).
A team without Cap problems not doing their job or competitive right now.

Somehow I hope that Dubas can fix the Marleau Conundrum (a hockey relativity problem that Einstein probably couldn't solve).
All of your suggestions are obviously easier said than done.

D won't be fine, 2 rookies into the lineup won't be pretty.
No one wants Zaitzev or Brown at their cap hits.
Mango and Kappi probably don't want bridge deals.
Marleau will be on the cap.
Oh yeah, that Marner contract too.

I wish I could fast forward to October to see how this plays out.

Brown is easily tradeable, I believe. His salary is well below league average, he?s a reasonable PKer, he scored 20 goals a couple of years ago. He?s prime-aged.  We might not get much in return for him, but there are plenty of teams who would take him on.
 
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.
 
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

+1

Kadri can prop up a 3rd line all by himself. The other two can?t.
 
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

I generally agree but Kadri's really got to be on his last legs in terms of making stupid decisions. It doesn't matter how great a value his deal is when he's not in the line-up when the team needs him most.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

I generally agree but Kadri's really got to be on his last legs in terms of making stupid decisions. It doesn't matter how great a value his deal is when he's not in the line-up when the team needs him most.

I've given this a few more weeks of thought, and I still think there's no way that they can bring him back. What he did again this year can't be condoned.
 
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I found Kadri looking slow at times over the season relative to the pace of the game. Certainly not calling him a plug by any stretch, but if he and Kapanen were moved for a substantial piece/pieces on the back end, I'd be interested to see what might be out there as a value UFA 3C. I think Nylander is wasted anywhere but the Matthews or Tavaras line.

The priority in the offseason after Marner should be to substantially bolster the top 4 D, assuming sans Gardiner. We're going to have to be prepared to lose something good to get it.
 
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

All the more reason to deal him now.  We can't afford him as 3C once the contract is over.  And while I wouldn't use as a rationale his suspensions (though Nik's basic point is well taken), Frycer is probably right in terms of what should be prioritized if he is traded.  If you do trade him for a roster defenseman instead of picks, then you can't use that space to sign Johnsson/Kapanen.

Yeah, one way or another we are likely losing somebody pretty good this offseason beyond just Gardiner.

 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bullfrog said:
No way in hell I'd let Kadri go before Johnsson and Kapanen. Kadri's on a fantastic deal is a significantly greater value.

All the more reason to deal him now.  We can't afford him as 3C once the contract is over.  And while I wouldn't use as a rationale his suspensions (though Nik's basic point is well taken), Frycer is probably right in terms of what should be prioritized if he is traded.  If you do trade him for a roster defenseman instead of picks, then you can't use that space to sign Johnsson/Kapanen.

Yeah, one way or another we are likely losing somebody pretty good this offseason beyond just Gardiner.
Why trade him with term?
 
Dubas on the Leafs cap situation:

?Everybody knows our situation,? Leafs GM Kyle Dubas said Friday over the phone. ?We?ve got three restricted free agents up front that are important not just in the short term but the long term, because they?re relatively young guys. You?ve got Andreas who is 24, ?Kappy? will be turning 23, and Mitch just turned 22. So you?ve got those guys that we want to lock up because we see them as very important core pieces of our group.?

...if Toronto wants to get what it really needs ? a right-shot, top-pair defenseman in the vein of Jacob Trouba, Dougie Hamilton or Colton Parayko ? it has to move a bigger piece. Might it be Kapanen or Johnsson? We can?t say for sure, and Dubas? best-case scenario is to obviously to keep both, but he did point out to me something important about Johnsson?s status.

?He was a restricted free agent last year and took his qualifying offer, so he?s arbitration eligible now, which means there will be a resolution,? Dubas said. ?It won?t be long and drawn out. By the end of July, we?ll have a solution to his status one way or another, whether that?s a negotiated settlement or whether the arbiter declares what his worth is. And regardless of what the outcome of the summer is for him, he is a player that we strongly value. ?

Because Johnsson?s contract situation, as Dubas explains, has a clear resolution timeline, you could make a case Johnsson is more likely than Kapanen to remain a Leaf.

Still, after what transpired with Nazem Kadri for a second consecutive post-season and, given his affordable $4.5-million cap hit, it wouldn?t be a huge surprise if he was the Leaf who ended up dealt. Nylander, whose cap hit comes in at just below $7 million, would be the best player to move from a financial standpoint, but Dubas has insisted he won?t trade him.

Long story short: we know the Leafs need a right-shot blueliner, but the RFAs are their first priority. Once those contracts ? at the very least Marner?s ? are sorted, Dubas can turn his attention to chasing that D-man. The guess here is that it will require trading Brown plus one of the team?s core secondary forwards from the group of Johnsson, Kapanen, Kadri and Nylander.



https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/ask-me-anything-which-nhl-team-will-make-the-boldest-off-season-moves
 
Bender said:
herman said:
Fenton has made assurances to Spurgeon, but I?m looking at their roster and I don?t know what he thinks he can do to climb out of the mushy middle.

Spurgeon at 30 in 2019 for Kapanen at 23? I don't really like the sound of that....

Yea, Spurgeon will be 30 and is a UFA after this season. That's a pretty big overpayment, imo. Is Larsson a better target? He has an extra year left and Edmonton already (for some reason) covets Brown. Maybe a Kapanen, Brown, + swap for Larsson and Paajarvi?
 
https://twitter.com/thefourthperiod/status/1135544586636578816

Where Marleau/Marner money might go... draft lottery specialist!
 
Sean Avery is claiming the leafs have traded Kadri for Trouba...people seem to think he may be joking ...

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/sean-avery-trade-leafs-jets-kadri-trouba
 
princedpw said:
Sean Avery is claiming the leafs have traded Kadri for Trouba...people seem to think he may be joking ...

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/sean-avery-trade-leafs-jets-kadri-trouba

I'm sure this is just Avery being Avery (a previous instagram post yesterday showed him forcing someone to apologize to a wall that they just peed on) but how amazing would it be if the Leafs started giving all these leaks to just completely random people to drop for the next year instead of schmoes like Dreger.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
princedpw said:
Sean Avery is claiming the leafs have traded Kadri for Trouba...people seem to think he may be joking ...

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/sean-avery-trade-leafs-jets-kadri-trouba

I'm sure this is just Avery being Avery (a previous instagram post yesterday showed him forcing someone to apologize to a wall that they just peed on) but how amazing would it be if the Leafs started giving all these leaks to just completely random people to drop for the next year instead of schmoes like Dreger.

Lol. Like maybe me. 

I?m sure it was a joke, commenting on the fact that Canadian fans are talking about off-season moves while the playoffs continue.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/tsn1040/status/1136291525950943233

Use cap space + assets from Marleau/Zaitsev/Kapanen/Brown to bring in a legitimate top-3 RHD and slide Puli in as 3RW.
 
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