Armchair GM 2019-2020

[princedpw]

Yeah, 2016 was a pretty good year to have won the lottery.  Pretty swift drop off in talent.  Very few winners beyond Matthews, Sergachev, McAvoy for their draft ranking it seems.  Even Laine's future looks a little suspect for a #2 overall pick (relative to some #2 overall picks).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one

edit:  I guess there is Tkachuk and Clayton Keller too.  Though Keller had just 47 points in 82 games last year ...  Nylander, Marner, Matthews was a pretty great run.

 

[Kin]

Yeah, 2016 was a pretty good year to have won the lottery.  Pretty swift drop off in talent.  Very few winners beyond Matthews, Sergachev, McAvoy for their draft ranking it seems.  Even Laine's future looks a little suspect for a #2 overall pick (relative to some #2 overall picks).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one

That's probably a little quick on the draw. We're talking about 20-21 year olds. Leaving aside guys you're forgetting like Tkachuk and Dubois looking pretty good right now it's way too early to judge a pretty defense heavy firstround.

 

[princedpw]

Yeah, 2016 was a pretty good year to have won the lottery.  Pretty swift drop off in talent.  Very few winners beyond Matthews, Sergachev, McAvoy for their draft ranking it seems.  Even Laine's future looks a little suspect for a #2 overall pick (relative to some #2 overall picks).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one

That's probably a little quick on the draw. We're talking about 20-21 year olds. Leaving aside guys you're forgetting like Tkachuk and Dubois looking pretty good right now it's way too early to judge a pretty defense heavy firstround.

Fair enough... (I just edited as you were posting ...)

 

[bustaheims]

That's probably a little quick on the draw. We're talking about 20-21 year olds. Leaving aside guys you're forgetting like Tkachuk and Dubois looking pretty good right now it's way too early to judge a pretty defense heavy firstround.

Yup, especially when it looks like a lot of teams are taking a patient approach with guys they drafted. Juolevi, for instance, was only brought over to play in the AHL last season. More and more teams are buying into a patient approach with their better prospects.

 

[Bill_Berg]

Been seeing rumours of Kovalchuk coming to Toronto for Marleau. On the surface it makes little sense since they're both paid 6.25 a year, but what if the Kings retain 3 million. With the Leafs paying a chunk of Marleau's salary on July 1st, the money would even out, not totally, and the cap hit would be 9 next year 3 the year after for the Kings and 3 for the Leafs in both years. Kovalchuk could be decent playing with a guy like Marner.

 

[Zee]

Been seeing rumours of Kovalchuk coming to Toronto for Marleau. On the surface it makes little sense since they're both paid 6.25 a year, but what if the Kings retain 3 million. With the Leafs paying a chunk of Marleau's salary on July 1st, the money would even out, not totally, and the cap hit would be 9 next year 3 the year after for the Kings and 3 for the Leafs in both years. Kovalchuk could be decent playing with a guy like Marner.

Kovalchuk at 3M has to be easier to swallow than Marleau at 6, but you'd have Kovalchuk for 2 seasons; if he's not a total bust it might make sense.

 

[Highlander]

frick the K man

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

If Perry gets bought out, would you take him on a one year league minimum contract?

 

[bustaheims]

If Perry gets bought out, would you take him on a one year league minimum contract?

He?s pretty broken, and a defensive liability these days. He also plays a position where the Leafs are pretty deep, and doesn?t provide enough of what they need. So, I?d say no.

 

[Guilt Trip]

If Perry gets bought out, would you take him on a one year league minimum contract?

He?s pretty broken, and a defensive liability these days. He also plays a position where the Leafs are pretty deep, and doesn?t provide enough of what they need. So, I?d say no.

It would depend on other moves first before getting him. Dont really see a need at the moment tho

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

If Kadri, Brown and Bracco go to get RD help, he could potentially be a good 3rd line RW banging in feeds from Willy.

At league minimum there is no risk imo.

If he can stay healthy and play against bottom six opposition with Willy feeding him...seems like a low risk/high reward swing.

 

[Bates]

If Kadri, Brown and Bracco go to get RD help, he could potentially be a good 3rd line RW banging in feeds from Willy.

At league minimum there is no risk imo.

If he can stay healthy and play against bottom six opposition with Willy feeding him...seems like a low risk/high reward swing.

Plus when the Bruins get a little dirty we would have a guy for the job.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Assuming we lose at least one of Brown or Kappy (which is almost a certainty I'd imagine) then yeah I'd definitely take Perry at anything sub-$1mil. Why not. Worst case they bench/waive him if he's a total bust.

I'm not entirely sure why the Ducks would consider buying him out though. Obviously last season sucked for him but starting in February put him way, way behind. And before that season he was still scoring at a 50-point pace so that's not completely awful. Why not play out a full season and see if he can rebuild some value. If he gets back to 50 points then next offseason when he has just 1 year left on his deal you can probably trade him for something decent as long as you retain some salary (edit: by some I mean of course the max 50%). 

 

[herman]

Presuming Zaitsev and Marleau and Brown are moved, without losing other roster players (which isn't very likely) and not accounting for the return because who knows... this is our depth chart. I only included Marlies that have a (small) chance to crack the roster.

LW		C		RW		LD		RD
Hyman +		Tavares		Marner		Rielly		Holl
Johnsson		Matthews		Nylander		Muzzin
Mikheyev		Kadri		Kapanen		Dermott +
Moore		Gauthier				Rosen
		Petan
Engvall				Bracco		Sandin		Liljegren
Marchment				Korshkov		Kivihalme
Timashov						Borgman
Carcone

Hainsey is very likely returning.

I don't know that utility scorer Tyler Ennis is going to take another league-min contract, given how he performed here; he still has 1.21667M coming from Minnesota's buyout last offseason, so that could help.

I'm betting the fringe signings/call ups/trades are going to prioritize penalty killers since Hyman is injured and we're dropping Brown and Zaitsev. (I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

 

[CarltonTheBear]

(I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

I've wondered too if Babcock finally gets his wish there, especially if it's involved in a larger Zaitsev trade.

 

[herman]

(I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

I've wondered too if Babcock finally gets his wish there, especially if it's involved in a larger Zaitsev trade.

1 year left at 1.8M for the OG Ben Smith... I don't hate it anymore.

Especially if the d corps looks like:

Rielly - Trouba or Hamilton
Gardiner - Dermott
Hainsey - Holl

 

[CarltonTheBear]

1 year left at 1.8M for the OG Ben Smith... I don't hate it anymore.

2 years left. So his contract still sucks, but it's also probably re-tradeable if need be.

 

[bustaheims]

I'm betting the fringe signings/call ups/trades are going to prioritize penalty killers since Hyman is injured and we're dropping Brown and Zaitsev. (I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

Yup. That's another big reason I don't think Perry is a fit for the Leafs. I don't think Nylander gets moved to 3C, even if Kadri is dealt. But, more importantly, the team isn't lacking in goal scoring. It is lacking in reliable twoway forwards, and Perry is not that - at least, not any more. He doesn't have the speed to keep up anymore.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

(I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

I've wondered too if Babcock finally gets his wish there, especially if it's involved in a larger Zaitsev trade.

There's talk of Brandon Dubinsky getting bought out, is his game still good enough to fill a centre role if he'll sign cheap?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm betting the fringe signings/call ups/trades are going to prioritize penalty killers since Hyman is injured and we're dropping Brown and Zaitsev. (I think Luke Glendening for 4C is happening -- or someone equivalent)

Yup. That's another big reason I don't think Perry is a fit for the Leafs. I don't think Nylander gets moved to 3C, even if Kadri is dealt. But, more importantly, the team isn't lacking in goal scoring. It is lacking in reliable twoway forwards, and Perry is not that - at least, not any more. He doesn't have the speed to keep up anymore.

Let's not forget that we're coming off a season where our PP2 scored like 6 goals or something all year (I don't actually know the number). We could use a huge boost there and Perry could potentially provide it.

As for PK options, just based off Herman's roster we still have Hyman and Kapanen. Moore probably gets minutes there. Mikheyev played in all situations in Russia so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was tried there. Plus I'd have to imagine that our new PK coach will see the value in having an actual centre play minutes there so I'd guess we see 2 of Tavares/Kadri/4C play. That's 6 options. Could see Johnsson getting tried there too during Hyman's absence, but once that settles I'd hope the primary PK quartet becomes Hyman and Kapanen and then two of those centres. I think we're ok there.