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Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs

CarltonTheBear said:
In regards to cap space, I wonder if the Leafs will try really hard to make sure that they have plenty of space for July 2016. You know, just in case there's some franchise centreman available or something.

You're talking about Tim Connolly, right?
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
CarltonTheBear said:
In regards to cap space, I wonder if the Leafs will try really hard to make sure that they have plenty of space for July 2016. You know, just in case there's some franchise centreman available or something.

You're talking about Tim Connolly, right?

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Heroic Shrimp said:
CarltonTheBear said:
In regards to cap space, I wonder if the Leafs will try really hard to make sure that they have plenty of space for July 2016. You know, just in case there's some franchise centreman available or something.

You're talking about Tim Connolly, right?

There's rumblings that Yanick Perreault has begun working out for a return that season.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
CarltonTheBear said:
In regards to cap space, I wonder if the Leafs will try really hard to make sure that they have plenty of space for July 2016. You know, just in case there's some franchise centreman available or something.

You're talking about Tim Connolly, right?

There's rumblings that Yanick Perreault has begun working out for a return that season.

I actually thought you were referring to Jiri Hudler.
 
HalfordPHT: In news that's going to catch fire in Buffalo and Vancouver, Sabres GM Tim Murray tells WGR 550 the club could buy out Cody Hodgson.

If the Sabres do buy him out, he could be a very interesting buy-low candidate. Only 25, has shown glimpses of being able to produce at a decent level. Get him on a cheap, one year deal and see what he can do.
 
Yeah it's been rumoured that they'd buy him out for awhile now. If we ditch Bozak somewhere there would definitely be room for him. Toronto guy, 25 years old, lead the Sabres in scoring last season (albeit with just 20 goals and 44 points). Worth a shot.
 
It strikes me as a little unlikely that anyone would have gone through the mess in Buffalo and then want to come to Toronto and do it all over again but, heck, couldn't hurt to make that big one year offer.
 
bustaheims said:
HalfordPHT: In news that's going to catch fire in Buffalo and Vancouver, Sabres GM Tim Murray tells WGR 550 the club could buy out Cody Hodgson.

If the Sabres do buy him out, he could be a very interesting buy-low candidate. Only 25, has shown glimpses of being able to produce at a decent level. Get him on a cheap, one year deal and see what he can do trade him at the deadline.

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Here are your mindless rumours for the day:

Chuck Gormley, a 'Capitals Insider', says the Caps are looking for a 1st line RW and put Kessel out there as a good match.  I can't imagine how the Caps make those $$ work.

http://www.csnwashington.com/hockey-washington-capitals/talk/should-capitals-try-trade-phil-kessel

A Denver post writer says the Avs covet Jake Gardiner (near the bottom).  Someone else floated the idea of building a trade around ROR as he likely doesn't want to be in CO, and the Avs probably don't want to pay him all those $$$.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2015/06/07/sunday-avalanche-rumblings-lw-lawson-crouse-picked-in-mock-draft-by-pretend-colorado-gm/21487/

Sometimes I think the same old crap just gets recycled, which is probably what I'm doing too, but things are pretty quiet around here.  Even nutman is in hiding.
 
I'd definitely look into what it would take to acquire both in a deal.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/detroit-red-wings-willing-to-trade-anthony-mantha-and-2015-first-round-pick/

Evidently there was interest in Phaneuf at the deadline and things would have to be finagled but I'd imagine there's something that could be done (or at least I hope there would be).

19 and 24 would be good depth picks for the re-build, or they could try and move them both for something in the 6-12 area.....
 
Chev-boyar-sky said:
I'd definitely look into what it would take to acquire both in a deal.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/detroit-red-wings-willing-to-trade-anthony-mantha-and-2015-first-round-pick/

Evidently there was interest in Phaneuf at the deadline and things would have to be finagled but I'd imagine there's something that could be done (or at least I hope there would be).

19 and 24 would be good depth picks for the re-build, or they could try and move them both for something in the 6-12 area.....

Hmmm.....a 6'5" LH great skating forward to complement small RH highly skilled forwards would be nice.  He has top 6 potential and would fit nice on the 2nd line behind JVR.  He kind of sounds like a Blake Wheeler. 

'94 Manta and 19th overall for Phaneuf.
 
I'd be surprised if they gave up 19 without getting a decent pick back.  The leafs don't have a 2nd rounder this year so I think a trade would look something like mantha,  #19 and Weiss for phaneuf and #24.  And I'm still not sold that detroit would do this which I'm OK with because I think the leafs need to hoard picks, not include them going back in deals. Personally I'd rather they try and do something with either Anaheim, Columbus or Colorado in regards to phaneuf.
 
bustaheims said:
HalfordPHT: In news that's going to catch fire in Buffalo and Vancouver, Sabres GM Tim Murray tells WGR 550 the club could buy out Cody Hodgson.

If the Sabres do buy him out, he could be a very interesting buy-low candidate. Only 25, has shown glimpses of being able to produce at a decent level. Get him on a cheap, one year deal and see what he can do.

I'm having trouble trying to rationalize this buyout.  They've got tons of cap space.  Is it more to do with making room for Sam Reinhart, or one of the other young centres?
 
Frank E said:
I'm having trouble trying to rationalize this buyout.  They've got tons of cap space.  Is it more to do with making room for Sam Reinhart, or one of the other young centres?

He's on the books for 4 more seasons. Has a cap-hit of $4.25mil and salaries of $4mil, $4.5mil, $5mil, and $5mil. So it's not a great contract even if he bounces back from his awful season. Now his age is the biggest factor here. If a player is under 26 years old his buyout is only one-third of his contract instead of two-thirds. Hodgson is 25, he turns 26 years old in February. So if the team is going to buy him out at any point now is the time to do so.
 
Ryan O'Reillly is a bad investment at this point.  The Leafs are going to be bad for at least 2 more years and a non-contending team for another 3-4 after that most likely.    O'Reilly is 24 now.  While he certainly has a 68 point season under his belt he's likely more of a 55-60 point player.  He's not a #1 center in the way that we would want him to be.  He's going to be massively overpaid and the Leafs would be better off getting picks and prospects from any trades.
 
L K said:
Ryan O'Reillly is a bad investment at this point.  The Leafs are going to be bad for at least 2 more years and a non-contending team for another 3-4 after that most likely.    O'Reilly is 24 now.  While he certainly has a 68 point season under his belt he's likely more of a 55-60 point player.  He's not a #1 center in the way that we would want him to be.  He's going to be massively overpaid and the Leafs would be better off getting picks and prospects from any trades.

Agreed, picks are the only reason for any trade in this rebuild.
 
sneakyray said:
I'd be surprised if they gave up 19 without getting a decent pick back.  The leafs don't have a 2nd rounder this year so I think a trade would look something like mantha,  #19 and Weiss for phaneuf and #24.  And I'm still not sold that detroit would do this which I'm OK with because I think the leafs need to hoard picks, not include them going back in deals. Personally I'd rather they try and do something with either Anaheim, Columbus or Colorado in regards to phaneuf.

You're not likely to get a prospect as good as Mantha from another team, so, to me, that alone is worth it. Throw in upgrading the 24th pick to the 19th, and that makes it a pretty easy yes from me. If that deal is on the table, it's almost certainly the best the Leafs will get for Phaneuf.
 
sneakyray said:
I'd be surprised if they gave up 19 without getting a decent pick back.  The leafs don't have a 2nd rounder this year so I think a trade would look something like mantha,  #19 and Weiss for phaneuf and #24.  And I'm still not sold that detroit would do this which I'm OK with because I think the leafs need to hoard picks, not include them going back in deals. Personally I'd rather they try and do something with either Anaheim, Columbus or Colorado in regards to phaneuf.

What about Phaneuf @ 50% retained salary for Mantha, Weiss and the #19?

Maybe a bit rich? Weiss is off the books in 3 years when the team can use the space again. Mantha and the #19 ELC's offset the Phaneuf hit of 3.5M from 2018-21.

This would all depend on Babcock's opinion of Mantha as he should have the best idea of him of anyone in the Leafs org but it'd be a way to keep the #24 and add #19 IMO.
 
sneakyray said:
I'd be surprised if they gave up 19 without getting a decent pick back.  The leafs don't have a 2nd rounder this year so I think a trade would look something like mantha,  #19 and Weiss for phaneuf and #24.  And I'm still not sold that detroit would do this which I'm OK with because I think the leafs need to hoard picks, not include them going back in deals. Personally I'd rather they try and do something with either Anaheim, Columbus or Colorado in regards to phaneuf.

Until draft day, I really think that moving up five spots is going to be of dubious value. Without having a clearer idea of who will be available at 19 that won't at 24 you're basically valuing those two picks with a dart board.

So if there's a chance to move Phaneuf I say you do it for whatever sort of cash in hand assets the Leafs can get for him. If you see a real need/opportunity to move up at the draft, the Leafs have other assets to try and make that happen.
 

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