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Big Daddy said:They have enough young guys is what Roy said. I think or hope that they would be looking at something like Grabovski, Kulemin and Liles. Salary is not an issue with them.
bustaheims said:Big Daddy said:They have enough young guys is what Roy said. I think or hope that they would be looking at something like Grabovski, Kulemin and Liles. Salary is not an issue with them.
It doesn't really matter what Roy said. He's not the GM.
bustaheims said:Big Daddy said:They have enough young guys is what Roy said. I think or hope that they would be looking at something like Grabovski, Kulemin and Liles. Salary is not an issue with them.
It doesn't really matter what Roy said. He's not the GM.
Big Daddy said:They have enough young guys is what Roy said. I think or hope that they would be looking at something like Grabovski, Kulemin and Liles. Salary is not an issue with them.
Corn Flake said:u sure? If not, who is? Seems like a bizarre structure.
Nik the Trik said:So...we won't be getting McKinnon for Grabo, Kulemin and Liles? Because I've already ordered the jersey.
bustaheims said:Corn Flake said:u sure? If not, who is? Seems like a bizarre structure.
Greg Sherman still holds that title.
Corn Flake said:And its been said he holds it in name only. Was he even at the Roy PC?
Corn Flake said:mc said:Corn Flake said:Big Daddy said:If Patrick Roy really said they are young enough already and would be willing to trade the #1 we better be offering practically anything to get MacKinnon
Yup. Anything. Literally.
Wonder what type of package would get Mackinnon....
Kadri +
Gardiner +
Rielly +++
Assume Avs would lean towards a Gardiner + deal, based on need for defense.
bustaheims said:Corn Flake said:And its been said he holds it in name only. Was he even at the Roy PC?
I know that's been rumoured, but, really, if that were true, why would they hold on to him or, at least, give him another title? It would mean they're basically paying him to do nothing, and for a team with some money issues, that seems like an unlikely thing for them to do.
TML fan said:Corn Flake said:mc said:Corn Flake said:Big Daddy said:If Patrick Roy really said they are young enough already and would be willing to trade the #1 we better be offering practically anything to get MacKinnon
Yup. Anything. Literally.
Wonder what type of package would get Mackinnon....
Kadri +
Gardiner +
Rielly +++
Assume Avs would lean towards a Gardiner + deal, based on need for defense.
Probably more like Phil Kessel +
Snoop Lion said:TML fan said:Probably more like Phil Kessel +
Not when he's a year from being an UFA.
Corn Flake said:Snoop Lion said:TML fan said:Probably more like Phil Kessel +
Not when he's a year from being an UFA.
Yeah I don't see it as a move like that. I think they would want to have players going into 2nd contracts and not pending UFA super-term deals from a cost perspective, and from an age perspective, high end talent that is in the same range as the kids they have. Having a "kid" at 18 is a lot different than a "kid" at 22-23 like Gardiner or Kadri. Need to give the former 2-3 years to emerge, the latter should be ready to go right now (which both guys I menionted are).
Roy probably wants to bring in veteran presence along side the kids, vs. not bring in any more high end young talent.
Snoop Lion said:TML fan said:Corn Flake said:mc said:Corn Flake said:Big Daddy said:If Patrick Roy really said they are young enough already and would be willing to trade the #1 we better be offering practically anything to get MacKinnon
Yup. Anything. Literally.
Wonder what type of package would get Mackinnon....
Kadri +
Gardiner +
Rielly +++
Assume Avs would lean towards a Gardiner + deal, based on need for defense.
Probably more like Phil Kessel +
Not when he's a year from being an UFA.
TML fan said:I don't think that matters at all.
Why would anyone trade the 1st overall pick for a 2nd line centre, a 2nd pairing defenceman, and a completely unproven prospect?
Snoop Lion said:TML fan said:I don't think that matters at all.
Why would anyone trade the 1st overall pick for a 2nd line centre, a 2nd pairing defenceman, and a completely unproven prospect?
Leaving aside whether or not Colorado would actually make that trade, I think CF got it right.
If they wanted to speed up their rebuild they'd go for guys who are ready to make an impact right now, but are still RFA's and can be cost controlled to some extent for a more years.
For a team like Colorado that's known as one of the cheapest in the league, that would be pretty important for them.
With Kessel, you've got one year left until he's making about $8 mill, and there's also very little security that he'd even re-sign with the Avs.
Snoop Lion said:Leaving aside whether or not Colorado would actually make that trade, I think CF got it right.
If they wanted to speed up their rebuild they'd go for guys who are ready to make an impact right now, but are still RFA's and can be cost controlled to some extent for a more years.
Nik the Trik said:Snoop Lion said:Leaving aside whether or not Colorado would actually make that trade, I think CF got it right.
If they wanted to speed up their rebuild they'd go for guys who are ready to make an impact right now, but are still RFA's and can be cost controlled to some extent for a more years.
I don't know if that's so true any more. Yeah, for guys like Pk Subban and hopefully Nazem Kadri you can control them for a couple extra years at below market but it seems to be a pretty acrimonious process which Colorado, I assume, will be pretty familiar with after O'Reilly. What we've seen in Edmonton though is that the kinds of players that I assume Colorado would want to add are going to get paid regardless.
TML fan said:Ok well as long as we are leaving fairly important factors aside, just leave aside the fact that Kessel is a UFA in a year, because he's the kind of player it would take.