Snoopzilla said:
We need someone else for the PK though and Niskanen has barely played there in his career.
Unofficial 2013-2014 Armchair GM Thread
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We need someone else for the PK though and Niskanen has barely played there in his career.
L K
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How his recovery goes would play a big part in any consideration, but I would consider taking a look at Joni Pitkanen to fill that 2nd pairing role in the offseason. He might come at a discount given that he will have missed the entire season with his heel fracture. He can't stay healthy at all (50ish games played over the last 3 years) but when he is healthy he's a pretty solid defenseman. If he can really cheap he might be a nice addition for a team. With the Leafs cap crunch though they probably can't take a risk with a guy like him.
Rebel_1812
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Leafs are looking to move kulemin: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442756 .
I hope it happens and we get a nice prospect or draft pick out of it.
I hope it happens and we get a nice prospect or draft pick out of it.
bustaheims
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Rebel_1812 said:
Willing to move Kulemin. There's a significant gulf between that and looking to.
BlueWhiteBlood
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bustaheims said:
Yeah, I don't rule out the possibility that it's a bit of a bargaining thing either. Come down in price a tad or we'll cut bait. Gauging interest? Nonis kind of has to with players in his situation.
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Jalili
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I think something like Kulemin to the Pens for Simon Despres would be a fair deal for both sides.
moon111
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There's two things I think Kulemin doesn't bring to the table. He doesn't fight, and he doesn't make Don Cherry happy. As someone who enjoys a passionate hockey fight and watching Don Cherry, all I have to say is: NO! You don't trade Kulemin. He seems like the kind of guy that will do what you ask of without complaint. I guess a deal could make sense..? Think he could score once again if placed in that role.
Britishbulldog
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So it is 2 years later and Chris Stewart's name is in the trade runours again because of NYR's Callahan. I am starting to drink the Blue Cool Aid again trying to cope....
Here is my conundrum:
Clarkson and Stewart's expected offensive point totals are almost a wash with Stewart being a bit better.
The huge difference is in the toughness department. Clarkson is Darcy Tucker tough without Tucker's repeated 20 goal seasons. Chris Stewart is Lucic tough. Period. The aspect that Stewart will score between 15 and 25 goals a season is also matching Lucic.
Edmonton wanted Clarkson. NYR is rumoured to be looking at Callahan for a package including Stewart and it appears that St Louis is listening.
So....can the Leafs move Clarkson to Edmonton for anything of value coming back? Would Clarkson waive his NTC?
Would that trade create the necessary pieces for Stewart?
Clarkson, Brown (or any Prospect/Marlie for that matter) and Gardiner (or any other Leaf dman not named Rielly) as starters for Eberle?
Trade Lupul, Biggs and Raymond to NYR for Callahan?
Trade Callahan for Stewart + ??...see wasn't easy?? Leafs current roster gets younger, faster, stronger.
Here is my conundrum:
Clarkson and Stewart's expected offensive point totals are almost a wash with Stewart being a bit better.
The huge difference is in the toughness department. Clarkson is Darcy Tucker tough without Tucker's repeated 20 goal seasons. Chris Stewart is Lucic tough. Period. The aspect that Stewart will score between 15 and 25 goals a season is also matching Lucic.
Edmonton wanted Clarkson. NYR is rumoured to be looking at Callahan for a package including Stewart and it appears that St Louis is listening.
So....can the Leafs move Clarkson to Edmonton for anything of value coming back? Would Clarkson waive his NTC?
Would that trade create the necessary pieces for Stewart?
Clarkson, Brown (or any Prospect/Marlie for that matter) and Gardiner (or any other Leaf dman not named Rielly) as starters for Eberle?
Trade Lupul, Biggs and Raymond to NYR for Callahan?
Trade Callahan for Stewart + ??...see wasn't easy?? Leafs current roster gets younger, faster, stronger.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Jordan Eberle ($6.000m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Peter Holland ($0.870m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
Carter Ashton ($0.840m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Troy Bodie ($0.600m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
T.J. Brennan ($0.600m) / Cody Franson ($2.000m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($1.800m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
LTIR
Trevor Smith ($0.550m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.78% of upper limit)
Ben Scrivens ($0.063m?10.20%)
Matt Frattin ($0.438m?50.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2013-14 crunched using simulation date of 2014-02-03)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; BONUSES: $1,475,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $445,833
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Jordan Eberle ($6.000m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Peter Holland ($0.870m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
Carter Ashton ($0.840m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Troy Bodie ($0.600m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
T.J. Brennan ($0.600m) / Cody Franson ($2.000m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($1.800m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
LTIR
Trevor Smith ($0.550m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.78% of upper limit)
Ben Scrivens ($0.063m?10.20%)
Matt Frattin ($0.438m?50.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2013-14 crunched using simulation date of 2014-02-03)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; BONUSES: $1,475,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $445,833
J
Jalili
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Not sure if Stewart is really worth all that. He's not really well-regarded in St. Louis. Lots of talent, but inconsistent and lazy.
Britishbulldog
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Redman said:
I hadn't seen that aspect of Stewart. Looking at just his stats I noticed that this year Stewart throws 1.24 hits a game where as Clarkson throws 2.89 hits which could be either that Clarkson is working harder or that St Louis normally has the puck and Stewart doesn't have to throw hits.
After seeing the country club Maple Leafs, I prefer the hard skating team better. I guess I would keep the smaller, not as offensively gifted hard working RWer over a big, more offensively gifted lazy RWer.
I just wished that Clarkson was only making$3.75 to $4.15 MIL compared to his previous contract of $2.66 MIL. Oh well.
After next season the Cap should be around $73 MIL and it won't hurt as much getting Clarkson without giving up any assets like it would take to get Stewart.
Britishbulldog
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I love the Leafs Top 6 and hope the next 4 years will be:
JVR 4.25 / Bozak 4.2 / Kessel 8.0
Lupul 5.25 / Kadri 5.25 / Kulemin 3.5= $30.45 MIL
If Bolland gets a 'Bozak' contract the 3rd line would be:
rookie .9 - 1.5 / Bolland 4.2 / Clarkson 5.25= $10.95 MIL
4th line:
rookie or goon .9 - 1.5 / Defensive Specialist 1.5 / rookie or goon .9 - 1.5 = $4.5 MIL
$2 MIL in the pressbox
Total forwards = $46 MIL which is a bit high as I expect it would be good to have $26 MIL for defense and $8 MIL for goalies.
For the next 3 years I think the most that should allotted for forwards is $38 MIL.
Best case for the Leafs contracts I think would be:
JVR 4.25 / Bozak 4.2 / Kessel 8.0
Lupul 5.25 / Kadri 4.25 (JVR contract) / Kulemin 3.0= $30.45 MIL
If Bolland gets a 'Bozak' contract the 3rd line would be:
rookie 1.0 / Bolland 3.75 / Clarkson 5.25= $10 MIL
4th line:
rookie or goon 1.0 / Defensive Specialist 1.5 / rookie or goon 1.0 = $3.5 MIL
$2 MIL in the pressbox
Total $42.45 MIL and I can't see Kadri or Bolland taking that lower contract.
JVR 4.25 / Bozak 4.2 / Kessel 8.0
Lupul 5.25 / Kadri 5.25 / Kulemin 3.5= $30.45 MIL
If Bolland gets a 'Bozak' contract the 3rd line would be:
rookie .9 - 1.5 / Bolland 4.2 / Clarkson 5.25= $10.95 MIL
4th line:
rookie or goon .9 - 1.5 / Defensive Specialist 1.5 / rookie or goon .9 - 1.5 = $4.5 MIL
$2 MIL in the pressbox
Total forwards = $46 MIL which is a bit high as I expect it would be good to have $26 MIL for defense and $8 MIL for goalies.
For the next 3 years I think the most that should allotted for forwards is $38 MIL.
Best case for the Leafs contracts I think would be:
JVR 4.25 / Bozak 4.2 / Kessel 8.0
Lupul 5.25 / Kadri 4.25 (JVR contract) / Kulemin 3.0= $30.45 MIL
If Bolland gets a 'Bozak' contract the 3rd line would be:
rookie 1.0 / Bolland 3.75 / Clarkson 5.25= $10 MIL
4th line:
rookie or goon 1.0 / Defensive Specialist 1.5 / rookie or goon 1.0 = $3.5 MIL
$2 MIL in the pressbox
Total $42.45 MIL and I can't see Kadri or Bolland taking that lower contract.
Champ Kind
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Britishbulldog said:
It's official, the Bulldog has lost it.
bustaheims
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Britishbulldog said:
If this were true, he wouldn't be available. Lucic types don't get moved unless the team is either going through a complete overhaul or the player does not want to re-sign. Stewart is not Lucic tough. Period. Very few players are.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Clarkson apologists:
?Clarkson isn?t here to put up points. He helps the team win?.
Leafs:
14-6-1 (113pt pace) without.
16-15-5 (84pt pace) with.
They've been a lot better when injuries to Clarkson amongst others have forced Randolph to ice a good team, when he gets to have his own way, we don't ice a 4th line and the team suffers.
?Clarkson isn?t here to put up points. He helps the team win?.
Leafs:
14-6-1 (113pt pace) without.
16-15-5 (84pt pace) with.
They've been a lot better when injuries to Clarkson amongst others have forced Randolph to ice a good team, when he gets to have his own way, we don't ice a 4th line and the team suffers.
bustaheims
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
To be fair, the 4th line doesn't get much ice time regardless of Clarkson's presence in the lineup.
Corn Flake
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Take a step back and think about whether it makes any sense at all to directly correlate those records to David Clarkson's presence in the lineup or not.
A: It doesn't.
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Jalili
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Britishbulldog said:
Yeah don't get me wrong, Chris Stewart's capable of being a beast. He's got it in him to bet that power forward but he's streaky as hell and doesn't put in the effort defensively.
I would say it's become a pattern of behaviour with him and would be wary of giving up assets to get him and also wary of committing significant cap space for him.
I guess you could say he's one of those big guys like Dustin Penner who's difficult to get motivated.
With that said, I would still like to get him here as a reclamation project, like MacArthur. Might have to wait a few years for that to happen though.