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The Official 2013 MLB Thread

Derk said:
MLB owners are looking at getting rid of pensions for non-uniformed employees (Link)
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I'm not sure you could put together a worse group of people than sports franchise owners.
 
Nik said:
I'm not sure you could put together a worse group of people than sports franchise owners.
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Airline executives in cahoots with government officials to drain investors and employee pension funds of every red cent in order to stuff their pockets. - How's that? (mini-rant.) 
 
Sarrrge said:
Airline executives in cahoots with government officials to drain investors and employee pension funds of every red cent in order to stuff their pockets. - How's that? (mini-rant.)
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Nah. They don't sound a ton better but compared to sports owners who routinely negotiate deals where tax payers are ripped off, taking money that could go to education or poverty programs and used to build them giant boondoggle stadiums? I mean, I know you're not super offended by that so long as it's other taxpayers and everything but I think that sort of willingness to rip off the public at large combined with stuff like this and locking out their employees when they run their business poorly kind of cinches it.
 
Sarrrge said:
Well, one actually impacts my life. The other? Not really.
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Well, Somali pirates don't affect my life but I still know they're worse people than my neighbours that don't shovel their walkway.
 
Sarrrge said:
I'm not see the gap you do but hey, thanks for the visual!
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I suppose the gap I'm seeing is that when rich people rip off the taxpayers at large, they're taking money that could be going to public services for children/the indigent/the handicapped and various other disenfranchised members of society that very often don't have a voice in the political process that acts as a safeguard against these things...your thing at least seems to be a dispute between capable adults.
 
Nik said:
your thing at least seems to be a dispute between capable adults.
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.. capable adults who, for the most part, are at the lower end of the middle class or upper end of the lower class (depending on how you look at it) with families to support.
 
Sarrrge said:
.. capable adults who, for the most part, are at the lower end of the middle class or upper end of the lower class (depending on how you look at it) with families to support.
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Right, so the gap you weren't seeing is between children and the even harder up and that. That's all.
 
A colleague is doing just-for-fun H2H fantasy baseball this year at http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy

It's not really catching on and we need 10 guys. - I know we have 5.  The live draft is the 26th at 2:30 and if you can't make it, just auto-draft. - I might have to. 

league name: AC Cargo 2013
password: aircanada

Like I said, there's nothing at stake (just bragging rights) so there's nothing to lose! - All in good fun.
 
Bahahahahahah!

@Wilnerness590 6m
According to @JeffPassan, #yankees are very close to acquiring Vernon Wells in a trade with #angels. Better LF option than Juan Rivera.
 
Sarrrge said:
Bahahahahahah!

@Wilnerness590 6m
According to @JeffPassan, #yankees are very close to acquiring Vernon Wells in a trade with #angels. Better LF option than Juan Rivera.
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He is STILL due 42 million.
 
Deebo said:
Sarrrge said:
Bahahahahahah!

@Wilnerness590 6m
According to @JeffPassan, #yankees are very close to acquiring Vernon Wells in a trade with #angels. Better LF option than Juan Rivera.
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He is STILL due 42 million.
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It looks like most of that will be paid by the Angels though. At the right price it's not the worst pick-up in the world if he can increase his OBP 40-50 points.

I wonder how it works salary wise though. I'd thought that the Yankees didn't want to add much in the way of salary so they could get under the tax. I wonder if the Angels picking up the salary somehow mitigates what he counts for.
 
Yankees are on the hook for 14 of the 42.

They pay tax on the amount you pay out, not the AAV. The amount of salary they pay each of the years is the amount that's counted for that year for taxing.
 
Speaking of the Yankees, one stat I find remarkable is that with their long and storied history, they have only finished last in their division twice.  That's absolutely incredible.
 
Related to my assertion of sports team owners being just the worst people in the world regarding the attempt to take away employees' pensions, Forbes just came out with their business of baseball report. The average MLB team saw it's value increase by 23% last year. The Blue Jays value jumped 38% to 568 million, ranking them 21st of the 30 teams. The Yankees(1st at 2.3 billion), Dodgers, Red Sox and Cubs are all billion dollar businesses.

http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/
 
Looks like the Yankees will break camp with Lyle Overbay, Ben Francisco and Vernon Wells on their roster, great to see them with so many guys who weren't good enough for the Jays a few years ago.
 
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