Ranking Prospects 2019-2020
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herman
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Less facetiously, I will add that the thread still serves as a place to discuss prospects (usually outside of the NHL and AHL rosters) regardless of the PPP summer exercise that serves as the throughline.
I still name the thread like this to deliberately incite that annual ?bUt HoW can TheY bE a PrOsPEct?? response, so here?s my self-congratulatory pat on the back.
I still name the thread like this to deliberately incite that annual ?bUt HoW can TheY bE a PrOsPEct?? response, so here?s my self-congratulatory pat on the back.
herman
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I guess another point of discussion is also about the term prospect in general. It?s rare but not impossible to see a young player break into the league pretty early on and sort of fizzle out in years 3-4 after the league catches on to their schtick (or luck reverses). Case in point Patrik Laine. There?s still development to be had there. There?s still uncertainty in his projection.
herman
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7. Andreas Johnsson
Remember when Johnsson was spelled Johnson because neither he nor his father ever wanted to embarrass anyone by correcting them? That remarkably started in Sweden with his father?s equipment manager with Frolunda and carried over until a couple years ago with the Marlies.
Remember when Johnsson was spelled Johnson because neither he nor his father ever wanted to embarrass anyone by correcting them? That remarkably started in Sweden with his father?s equipment manager with Frolunda and carried over until a couple years ago with the Marlies.
herman
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6. Rasmus Sandin
In the absence of first-hand knowledge, people will tend towards looking up points. Sandin is good and smart and basically a steal at 29, but still needs refinement time.
In the absence of first-hand knowledge, people will tend towards looking up points. Sandin is good and smart and basically a steal at 29, but still needs refinement time.
herman said:
There was a twitter poll the other day (made by a Leafs fan with a large Leafs fan audience) that asked if people would still pick Sandin over Veleno if there was a re-draft. 88% of respondents said they'd stick with Sandin. That's still something I wonder about. Veleno was arguably the best player in the Q this past season. Let's hope this one doesn't turn into another Dermott/Aho situation.
herman
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Was there much gnashing of teeth over picking Dermott instead of Aho? Aho didn't really blow up Liiga until after he was drafted.
The only thing I remember of Aho back then was that he was a Spider-Man meme with a Swedish defenseman.
Edit: I'm re-reading the 2015 draft thread. It's fun!
Edit 2: Literally zero remark from our crowd about Sebastian Aho (I guess we were still scratching our heads about Dermott).
The only thing I remember of Aho back then was that he was a Spider-Man meme with a Swedish defenseman.
Edit: I'm re-reading the 2015 draft thread. It's fun!
Edit 2: Literally zero remark from our crowd about Sebastian Aho (I guess we were still scratching our heads about Dermott).
herman said:
None at all if I remember correctly. It just stung when Babcock or something said a couple years ago that they strongly considered taking Aho in that spot.
Coco-puffs
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CarltonTheBear said:
I voted Sandin... mostly because of organizational need. Veleno very well may be the better prospect now and better player over his career. He'd have to become Aho to make me regret it though (as long as Sandin becomes the top 4 guy we seem to all expect at this point).
Kin
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Is the implication that if the Leafs had drafted Aho that they then wouldn't have signed Tavares? And then used the extra cap space to upgrade the defense?
Because while I don't think I'd definitively say the team would be worse in that respect, I'm not sure I'd look at what's gone on with defensemen in the free agent market and point to an obvious case of where the team could really have used that money.
Because while I don't think I'd definitively say the team would be worse in that respect, I'm not sure I'd look at what's gone on with defensemen in the free agent market and point to an obvious case of where the team could really have used that money.
Coco-puffs
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Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, Free Agency without a doubt hasn't been very helpful for attaining d-men. The only scenario I can see whereby the Aho + D-man vs Tavares + Dermott works out (up until this point) is if the D-man in question is Jake Gardiner getting re-signed.
Nik the Trik said:
I wouldn't really make that assumption. I'd imagine Aho would have mostly played LW with the Leafs and they still would have gone after Tavares. Maybe in this universe they won't feel as pressured to sign Marleau.
It'd certainly have created cap issues for us though after his ELC was over, but heck who knows what this team could have done last season with an elite left winger to play with Matthews, especially during Nylander's absence.
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Coco-puffs said:
I take Tavares & Dermott over Aho & Gardiner every day of the week. Last week too. Next week as well.
herman
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OldTimeHockey said:
I think it'd look more like
Tavares + Marner + Dermott
vs
Werenski/Provarov + Aho + Gardiner + mystery pick (+ probably Bracco on the Leafs by now)
I'm fairly certain they would've gone Aho over Dermott if our 1st was a D-man. I sort of think the Leafs would've missed out on Tavares without the Nylander + Marner combo.
herman said:
Yeah the 2015 draft was always a fun one to speculate about years after. Imagine this Leafs team with Werenski/Provarov + Aho instead of Marner + Dermott. Better? Worse? Who knows but fun to think about.
herman said:
Again I still don't buy the idea that this would definitely mean no Tavares. Getting a player of his elite talent and Toronto background for free/just cap space would still have been too much to pass on.
Maybe it means no Muzzin. Maybe Kapanen and/or Johnsson get traded. But Tavares would still be here.