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Ranking Prospects 2019-2020

herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I take Tavares & Dermott over Aho & Gardiner every day of the week. Last week too. Next week as well.

I think it'd look more like

Tavares + Marner + Dermott
vs
Werenski/Provarov + Aho + Gardiner + mystery pick (+ probably Bracco on the Leafs by now)

I'm fairly certain they would've gone Aho over Dermott if our 1st was a D-man. I sort of think the Leafs would've missed out on Tavares without the Nylander + Marner combo.

I'm fairly certain this started as a Sandin vs Veleno conversation.... and down the rabbit hole we've gone.  Its definitely August.  :P
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
I think it'd look more like

Tavares + Marner + Dermott
vs
Werenski/Provarov + Aho + Gardiner + mystery pick (+ probably Bracco on the Leafs by now)

I'm fairly certain they would've gone Aho over Dermott if our 1st was a D-man.

Again I still don't buy the idea that this would definitely mean no Tavares. Getting a player of his elite talent and Toronto background for free/just cap space would still have been too much to pass on.

Maybe it means no Muzzin. Maybe Kapanen and/or Johnsson get traded. But Tavares would still be here.

I think people are looking at it from Tavares's point of view.  He may not wanted to have come to Toronto if he didn't get to play with a winger like Marner.  Getting Aho instead of Dermot probably opens up options to them that they don't currently have.  They probably feel more comfortable moving someone like Nylander, when means that you may be able to bring in a D-man who is a little better than who Dermot is now.  So you still end up with a big 4 up front, but with one better d-man on the back end.  At least potentially, because you know, one decision doesn't usually happen in a vacuum.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Again I still don't buy the idea that this would definitely mean no Tavares. Getting a player of his elite talent and Toronto background for free/just cap space would still have been too much to pass on.

Just realistically, you couldn't have five forwards making 45-50 million of the cap. Maybe Tavares isn't the odd man out but someone would have to be.
 
5. Alexander Kerfoot

He just made the cut off.

The Devils drafted Kerfoot but he elected free agency and signed with Colorado. Will Butcher was drafted by Colorado but elected for free agency and signed with New Jersey.
 
4. Kasperi Kapanen

He?s a specialist with quite a bit of skill, but they?re slightly unbalanced at the moment. A bit more seasoning to learn when to use his blistering speed, and more time spent learning how to make plays at a higher speed will even things out at the next level. We have seen similar progress in Dylan Larkin, who has almost the same player profile. Kappy?s new cap hit is currently pretty fair but he can easily outpace it in value with some small tweaks to his game. I think Kerfoot will be a good match for him as Kapanen is a shoot-first-think-later type of player at the moment and Kerfoot is a very cerebral hold-it-forever centre.

What has to be remembered is that if his hands and brain could keep up with his feet, he wouldn?t be Kasperi Kapanen. He?d be Connor McDavid.
 
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.
 
2. Mitch Marner

Can you believe how tentative we all were going into the 2016 season thinking that Marner would fit on the NHL team as maybe 13th forward for a bit to get his feet wet?
 
herman said:
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.

I like Nylander, but I'm really starting to dislike his fans. Instead of celebrating Marner's development and a truly superlative year, all I read is sour grapes because it wasn't nylander.
 
herman said:
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.

Who the heck is #3 on the voter's list that had Nylander as #4?
 
Frycer14 said:
herman said:
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.

I like Nylander, but I'm really starting to dislike his fans. Instead of celebrating Marner's development and a truly superlative year, all I read is sour grapes because it wasn't nylander.

Have you not seen the accolades for Marner? Who single-handedly turned John Tavares into John Tapvares?
 
Frycer14 said:
herman said:
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.

I like Nylander, but I'm really starting to dislike his fans. Instead of celebrating Marner's development and a truly superlative year, all I read is sour grapes because it wasn't nylander.

I really don't recall that at all.
 
Bender said:
Frycer14 said:
herman said:
3. William Nylander

#3 on this list but #1 to meeeeeeee

Who knew that all it would take to break the forever-tie was a contract stalemate, delayed start, and terrible on-ice shooting luck, while Mitch Marner is assigned to flank one of the best 5v5 scorers and winger boosters in his prime.

I like Nylander, but I'm really starting to dislike his fans. Instead of celebrating Marner's development and a truly superlative year, all I read is sour grapes because it wasn't nylander.

I really don't recall that at all.

Remember when Gretzky was trending because people thought Marner was comparable to him...
 
https://twitter.com/51Leafs/status/1168971263592845313

I remember there being a good debate here about whether Rantanen should have gone back to Europe instead of staying in the OHL. I had a side but can't remember which one I was on so I'll just assume I was right.
 
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