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2011/2012 Injury Thread

WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Marc Crawford just suggested the Flyers should get Gonchar to replace Pronger and should give up Schenn.  #reasonheisunemployed

Who would you rather have? Honestly. Gonchar or Franson?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Marc Crawford just suggested the Flyers should get Gonchar to replace Pronger and should give up Schenn.  #reasonheisunemployed

Wow.

Well, if that's the going rate, I say we trade the Flyers Liles and take back Schenn and their 1st rounder this year.  :)
 
Sarge said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Marc Crawford just suggested the Flyers should get Gonchar to replace Pronger and should give up Schenn.  #reasonheisunemployed

Who would you rather have? Honestly. Gonchar or Franson?

For replacing Pronger? Gonchar if they want someone who can run a pp, has played in every kind of big game situation there is, and a Cup ring.

Franson if they want none of that.
 
Anyone else find it a little unusual that there's been no video or explanation for how Pronger got concussed? And then, it suddenly goes from flu/virus to end of his season?

I'm not trying to spin a conspiracy theory - I don't think there's anything sinister going on. It's just that it almost came out of nowhere so quickly and it's an instant loss of the entire season - not "we'll see how he is in four months".

link to Philly story
Pronger has five years left on a seven-year $34.45 million extension. Now there are questions - big questions - about whether his Hall of Fame career will resume.

An impressive thing is that with their #1 dman, Pronger and with the league's top scorer, Giroux and others out:
http://forecaster.faceoff.com/faceoff/hockey/injuries.cgi?Phi
they keep on winning
(7 in a row now, .717 win% is the best in hockey)

Further, it's not like they've been riding great goaltending all season either (Bryzgalov .901, save%, Bobrovsky .905 save%)

It's bound to eventually catch up to them some but that's a sign of a pretty darn good team to show no signs of skipping a beat with two pretty devastating injuries.
 
Madferret said:
Sarge said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Marc Crawford just suggested the Flyers should get Gonchar to replace Pronger and should give up Schenn.  #reasonheisunemployed

Who would you rather have? Honestly. Gonchar or Franson?

For replacing Pronger? Gonchar if they want someone who can run a pp, has played in every kind of big game situation there is, and a Cup ring.

Franson if they want none of that.

Okay. Point taken... But I see Franson's cap number as one of the most appealing parts of either player.
 
Further to my post above:
link

Flyers plan for season without Pronger
During a news conference at the Skate Zone in Voorhees, Holmgren said Pronger was concussed when he was hit in the right eye by a stick against Toronto on Oct. 24. As it turned out, Pronger unknowingly played five games with a concussion. At the time, the Flyers thought Pronger had a virus.
...
Asked hypothetically on Friday what would happen if Pronger was feeling better as the playoffs arrived, Holmgren said: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I think right now, Chris is not an option. If he gets better somewhere over the next month [or] months, we'll address that when we get there."


It surprised me when they said that Grabbo's stick caused the concussion so I reviewed it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMU33FKIko
and I can see why it might have.
 
cw said:
Further to my post above:
link

Flyers plan for season without Pronger
During a news conference at the Skate Zone in Voorhees, Holmgren said Pronger was concussed when he was hit in the right eye by a stick against Toronto on Oct. 24. As it turned out, Pronger unknowingly played five games with a concussion. At the time, the Flyers thought Pronger had a virus.
...
Asked hypothetically on Friday what would happen if Pronger was feeling better as the playoffs arrived, Holmgren said: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I think right now, Chris is not an option. If he gets better somewhere over the next month [or] months, we'll address that when we get there."


It surprised me when they said that Grabbo's stick caused the concussion so I reviewed it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMU33FKIko
and I can see why it might have.

IIRC I read a story that said the Hanzal hit and another one ( can't think of it ) compounded the issue kind of like Crosby vs Steckel/Hedman, I remember scoffing at the notion that Grabbo's stick alone did that too somewhere in the fora.
 
Tigger said:
cw said:
Further to my post above:
link

Flyers plan for season without Pronger
During a news conference at the Skate Zone in Voorhees, Holmgren said Pronger was concussed when he was hit in the right eye by a stick against Toronto on Oct. 24. As it turned out, Pronger unknowingly played five games with a concussion. At the time, the Flyers thought Pronger had a virus.
...
Asked hypothetically on Friday what would happen if Pronger was feeling better as the playoffs arrived, Holmgren said: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I think right now, Chris is not an option. If he gets better somewhere over the next month [or] months, we'll address that when we get there."


It surprised me when they said that Grabbo's stick caused the concussion so I reviewed it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMU33FKIko
and I can see why it might have.

IIRC I read a story that said the Hanzal hit and another one ( can't think of it ) compounded the issue kind of like Crosby vs Steckel/Hedman, I remember scoffing at the notion that Grabbo's stick alone did that too somewhere in the fora.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20112012,2,262&event=PHI709

Hadn't seen that hit. Looks worse in terms of concussion potential than what Grabbo did.

He fell into the boards against Carolina three nights before that. Couldn't quickly find that video.

Saw him interviewed a few days after the Grabbo eye injury. He seemed pretty sharp.
 
Flyers lost Couturier today. Took a puck to the head from a slapshot.

Holmgren said that Couturier?s baseline scores were similar to what he had in training camp.

?I think what they are checking for now is damage to his skull,? Holmgren said. ?And taking a look to see if there is any internal damage.?







 
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